What is the hang-up some women have about BJTC?

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  • 42andatowel42andatowel United StatesSilver Member Posts: 325
    Rorschach said:
    "Barfing is not a prerequisite for excellent blowjobs."

    T-shirts are in the making. I'm retiring.
    Don't forget @Angeline 's royalty for coming up with the phrase, and @Athol_Kay 's too for providing the forum.  You might not want to retire yet.
  • 42andatowel42andatowel United StatesSilver Member Posts: 325
    So I get it, a 40 minute long BJ can suck in more ways than one.....

    Anything I can do to help myself finish quicker?

    Anything I can suggest to my wife in the moment.

    I might try and watch the movies @BMXgroupie suggested with her, but I know she won't be into gagging, etc.

    Might need to try the more specific in the moment feedback @shibari suggested.

    We'll just have to see if another BJ is forthcoming in the next week or two, or if this gets tabled for a while.
  • 42andatowel42andatowel United StatesSilver Member Posts: 325
    And there's another short for you @Rorschach , 40 Minute BJ's suck.
    Rorschach
  • RedPillRonRedPillRon New York CityGold Men Posts: 642
    Sometimes I wonder where the line is regarding doing something that pleases your significant other and discounting said thing due to lack of comfort or general opposition (due to random/personal factor). How much of our own discomfort or prejudice is projected with our opposition to any single sexual act? Be it squirting, deep throat blow-jobs, Anal sex or Romanian gymnast positions.

    As someone who is fairly open minded about all sexual flavors and is paired with a loving S.O who is a good sport about things that she may deem a bit advanced (taboo?), for which I am grateful. I would be slightly irritated if the prevailing attitude in our bedroom was one where we remained sexually static. I see this as an area where their has to be some give and take. Now if there are hard boundaries and they are expressed as such that is one thing altogether different and has to be respected. 

    My S/O would give me mediocre Blow Jobs when we where dating. They eventually became a rare thing and then vanished from the menu all together. It was a gradual process. One day I requested one and was shot down hard. I was pretty butt hurt about it and handled it completely wrong as many of us do in the life before Map. This moment is one that stands out in my memory as hurtful rejection.

    Many months into mapping BJ's did return but they were still mediocre at best. I asked my S.O about her hang ups with BJ's and it turned out that one of her previous boyfriends told her that she was bad at it and caused her to turn off of the act all together. Fast forward to today and we are in a much better place and I am quite satisfied with the BJ's I receive. Her previous experience was preventing me from getting a BJ. Mapping put me in a place where I could not only bring it up but go through the process of correcting it.

    Mapping can get you to a place where you can make changes in the bedroom by creating the trust and communication lines needed to facilitate it. However, creating an environment where desires cannot even be discussed between partners is creating the possibility for a critical moment of neglect and will do damage. As one MAPS themselves into being a better high value spouse, I see nothing wrong with having and seeking out higher quality sex and sexual acts. Be aware however that the bedroom is rarely if ever the first place that we see results of the MAP.
    Triage Posted here

    42andatowelTruman
  • Husband3point0Husband3point0 Gold Men Posts: 3,294
    Do you have DE (delayed ejaculation) in general, or just sporadically with this one specific act?

    Just making sure we are addressing the root problem, rather than a symptom of the problem...
    forestleaf
  • 42andatowel42andatowel United StatesSilver Member Posts: 325
    frillyfun said:
    Sometimes you get a highlight reel BJ, and sometimes it just takes forever.  On a good day they're a real confidence builder- like "yeah- I just rocked his world".  Anything more than about 10 minutes for a BJ turns into a -1 for me.   It does get painful.

    During the act if you have a suggestion growl it...BJ's are very Alpha for females.  You have to match that level of Alpha.  

    If you're passing the 10 minute mark transition to something else.  

    Also, satin opera gloves can be fun.


    I guess it's the catch 22 I'm currently in, I get 1 or 2 BJs a year, so I can't motivate myself to transition to something else.  If I knew there would be attempt #2 in a few weeks, I'd 100% transition to something else.

    I'll employ this on the next BJ she gives me, if it's not next year.  I'll keep somewhat of an eye on the time and at 10 minutes in I'll lead the transition to a very dominant pounding.

    If however the next attempt is March 14, 2017, then I'm letting it go for as long as it takes.
  • 42andatowel42andatowel United StatesSilver Member Posts: 325

    Do you have DE (delayed ejaculation) in general, or just sporadically with this one specific act?

    Just making sure we are addressing the root problem, rather than a symptom of the problem...
    With PIV, Anal, etc. it can take 5 minutes to 45 minutes, depending on my stamina (if I get wore out quickly it takes longer) which working on fitness and my MAP should help with.

    BJs have always seemed to take longer than they should with me, but there have been a handful she has completed in under 10 minutes, and I don't have a lot of comparisons from 20 years ago before her to know if it's her, me, or a combination of both.
  • 42andatowel42andatowel United StatesSilver Member Posts: 325
    Beatrice said:
    It is also possible that if you would transition to something else after 10 minutes or so, you would be more likely to get a BJ before next year. 
    Agreed, so I will try this next time, provided next time isn't a year from now.
  • 42andatowel42andatowel United StatesSilver Member Posts: 325
    frillyfun said:
    Are you using porn and/or FAPping (masturbation)?  How is your t-level?

    If a woman came on here, and said her H takes 40 minutes for a BJTC we'd tell her to look for outside sexual sources, and to get his t levels checked (and to stop giving you BJ's until things improved).
    I've been an occasional porn user.  Haven't viewed any in the past two weeks.

    No solo fapping in the past two weeks.  Have done a couple of "assisted" sessions with  my wife.

    Going back further, porn/fapping about twice a week.

    If I want to I can come in under 5 minutes when fapping, but I usually prefer to take my time, but I'm still done in under 10 minutes.

    I've never had my T-Levels checked, but never had a reason to have them checked.  No problems with erections, still get morning wood occasionally, etc.




    frillyfunHusband3point0
  • 42andatowel42andatowel United StatesSilver Member Posts: 325
    frillyfun said:
    If you just went no FAP that could be the reason the last BJ took a while.  It takes a while for your brain to reset, and it does make things tougher for a while.  

    From your triage, and other info I'm seeing some signs of low-t.  It wouldn't hurt to have it checked the next time you're at the doctor's office.  It will certainly help with the weight loss, and lifting if you decide to supplement.
    I've done some research on ordering a testosterone test myself.  I'll definitely bring it up at my next Dr. visit, as I don't want to spend the money out of pocket at the moment when insurance should cover it.  

    In the mean time, I'll kick myself in the ass and get started working out, which could naturally raise my T levels as well.
    frillyfunCallmeCat
  • 42andatowel42andatowel United StatesSilver Member Posts: 325

    Beatrice said:
    It is also possible that if you would transition to something else after 10 minutes or so, you would be more likely to get a BJ before next year. 
    Agreed, so I will try this next time, provided next time isn't a year from now.
    This is how Mexican standoffs work. Each party decides what their constraints are and there's no overlap in the middle. So, each person sits on the high horse acting indignant and justifiable in their frustration. The solution is for someone to gain the wisdom to yield, claim success where you can, gain positive momentum, and then use that momentum to climb the upward spiral to get to the point where the standoff doesn't occur again. 

    If you're looking for a great bedroom leadership moment, it's sitting right there on a golden platter. 
    Yeah, I get that.....just have to act on it.
  • 42andatowel42andatowel United StatesSilver Member Posts: 325
    frillyfun said:
    If you just went no FAP that could be the reason the last BJ took a while.  It takes a while for your brain to reset, and it does make things tougher for a while.  
    I forgot to mention this as well.  I'm not really trying to do no FAP (maybe I should be though).  I just haven't felt the urge/need with two killer BJTCs and some  other action over the last week and 1/2.  She's coming off sharkweek too, so mmaybe I can build some momentum on the sex front and get us going about every other day, where I won't feel the urge to FAP.

    The urge seems to surface anytime we go more than 2-3 days in a row w/o sex,
  • 42andatowel42andatowel United StatesSilver Member Posts: 325
    Angeline said:
    I still think that if you view basic hygeine as a "demon to slay" then that is Job 1 towards more frequent, more enthusiastic BJs.

    You don't even need scent, and if the tendency has been to bridge the hygeine gap with scent then it probably has a negative association, not a positive one. Many women like the smell of a healthy, clean man, even a sweaty one, if there is a regular program of bathing going on. It's when the funk builds up over days that the sexy sweaty man smell just becomes unwashed unsexy.

    Raising your cleanliness levels up to basic adult standards doesn't give you any gold stars, it raises you up to zero.
    I think I've successfully slain that demon.  Ironically it also caused my wife to up her hygiene standards too.  It seems we had done a pretty good job of feeding off each other (negatively) on that issue.

    Regardless, I think I may have overstated the hygiene issue in the beginning.  It was more of an easy thing for me to focus on, where I could make immediate positive gains with little effort before moving on to bigger items.
    AngelineamblrgirlScarlet
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