I think knowing what I know now. I'd call off the marriage and rethink this out. Obviously this young lady could have played the field abit while single. Going home with or dating assholes like that says a lot to me. That guy has zero class coming up to u and talking about the past sex or relationship. But you also handled it poorly as well and went into a shell. You didn't Rep your Fiancé or tell this clown to fuck off. So know he's having doubts and I would too. But being who I am I would have punched the drunk assholes lights out.
Into Phase 3..
Those Who Dare......Win. "What gives you fear today...Gives you Strength tomorrow.."
The drive back was silent. At home, he
asked me if what the douche said was true. I sort of stuttered and
mumbled and said that guy was a big mistake and that we should focus on
our lives together and forget about that guy. He didn't bring it up
again until last night when he did. He feels like I "went crazy" with
that guy. He also wanted to know why I'd do the stuff I did with that
guy when he's asked for the same (he has - but never pushed it) but I
said no. And he's now also focusing on how "quick" I was with the douche
but when it came to us we waited (a bit over three months).
Where did she lie, by omission or otherwise? As reported, she said no to anal sex with him. She didn't say she'd never had anal sex at all.
He's not as "experienced" as I am. When the talk about our pasts came up, I told him about my significant past boyfriends and did not talk about the "insignificant ones." I guess I did this to spare his feelings. I didn't want him feel hurt or funny or awkward.
The elephant in the room is that she still isn't willing to do anal and such with her fiancé, even though the cat is out of the bag. This implies a serious lack of attraction. She could use this as a fair warning and have him work on his attraction (at the risk of losing him, which she may do anyway) or try to sneak through a marriage (and probably a divorce). (I don't see a problem with her not telling him, my W hasn't told me much of anything about her past, except the definite knowledge that it is the past).
Ouch. I can imagine how I'd feel in this situation.
- I would wonder from that point on why she was in bed with me? Because she felt like she had to? I always wanted someone that actually desires me.
- Given the above, it would be apparent that she settled for me. I would always be wondering if I she would be always be looking for someone better since I wasn't exactly what she wanted.
- If she tried to make it up to me by suddenly promising to do all the things I had wanted sexually, I would lose all respect for her because it would feel like she was trying to manipulate me with sex.
- And yeah, I doubt there would be a wedding anytime soon.
A tough position to be in. I wonder if he will try to contact the same guy again or other people from your past to try and find out just how far this goes.
Have you ever sailed across an ocean Donald? On a sail boat surrounded by sea with no land in sight. Without even the possibility of sighting land for days to come. To stand at the helm of your destiny. I want that, one more time.
- I would wonder from that point on why she was in bed with me? Because she felt like she had to? I always wanted someone that actually desires me.
- Given the above, it would be apparent that she settled for me. I would always be wondering if I she would be always be looking for someone better since I wasn't exactly what she wanted.
- If she tried to make it up to me by suddenly promising to do all the things I had wanted sexually, I would lose all respect for her because it would feel like she was trying to manipulate me with sex.
So, one thing I have seen repeatedly in my time here are some guys, who become 'RP Aware', realizing the dynamic of 'Alpha Fux/Beta Bux', and where they might fall on that spectrum. For a guy who...didn't have as 'robust' a past, or was the typical NG doing all the NG things, I imagine this is very painful, and probably infuriating. And reading the larger, angrier Manosphere on this subject just pours gas on a fire, if he's started doing this. Which he just might.
@WendyG - You have a situation that, frankly, has to be addressed. Many above mentioned the attraction to Douchey; its undeniable. I would spend some serious noodle-time with Athol's post - he's asked you some serious, pointed questions that you very seriously need to give very serious thought too.
You can't put the genie back in the bottle. And not addressing this one is just biding time until the pressure valve pops IMO.
"Fall down seven times, stand up eight" Japanese Proverb
He just had a bad frame from the beginning right? He accepted a no sex months long courting period and then probably an unenthusiastic sex life since then by the sounds of it. The advice here that he doesn't have game is probably the most correct. It's coupled with her wanting a 'nice guy' to 'settle down with' after probably reading some bad advice elsewhere about what long term men want.
Oh she got her long term man alright, but predictably he has no game and was happy to be a perfect gentlemen until he found out that it was only he who got this treatment. It's not even about the type of sex, but just the fact that he has been given a set of rules and has been sucking it up, probably getting less than half the sex life he really wants. If she said no to one type of sexual activity, he'd be fine with that probably if he felt real desire from her, but he doesn't. His gut has been telling him that she isn't really into him and now he has confirmation.
An inexperienced man like this has a huge bag of insecurity that he carries and this event has just reassured every single one of them. He's worthless, not attractive, not worthy of real desire, this is the best he ever gets, etc... He's thinking all of that.
He needs a MAP. He needs to become the best man he can be and not accept this type of dynamic if it makes him miserable. I'm not sure if he can salvage this because of the way it started and the dynamic created since then. Can you create attraction when none was really there to begin with? Don't we usually say no in those cases?
I'd be worried OP. You have your nice guy and I'm sure he'd be super committed to you and marry you and have kids with you and accept whatever sex life you could stomach with him, but are you really going to be happy with that in the end? Wouldn't you rather have all that AND a guy who you wanted to have enthusiastic sex with and often? Not one where you have to logic your way into whatever is needed to maintain the relationship? I think you feel this dynamic of you having the power and him going along and I don't think you find it attractive at all. You're trying to will yourself into the sensible choice. If you really want a long term thing with this guy, give him the books and tell him what you really need to be attracted to a guy. It could end the relationship as others have said, but it would end anyway in the long run. I think a part of you knows this. Better to risk it now, then risk a decade of turmoil.
Is it me or is there a lot of projection going on here? I mean, the OP has not returned to answer any of these questions or fill in the gaps. If we haven't scared her off, maybe we should wait to get more information before adding more forum-isms on the pyre.
@RedPillRon, which forum-isms are you referring to?
When push comes to shove, you taste what
you're made of. You might bend til you break, cause it's all you can
take. On your knees you look up, decide you've had enough. You get
mad, you get strong, wipe your hands, shake it off... And you stand!
She rode the carousel and now she regrets it. (To be clear she doesn't regret the carousel she regrets what it is doing to sabotage her current life stage plans, she hasn;t indicated even a slice of remorse for her "previous life")
She hits the wall and changes lanes to BB mode, in a matter of months, classic.
She's probably an alpha widow.
Her man doesn't do it for her, period.
Starfish sex ensues, after a months long wait
It's never worth the wait.
If they move forward with this without any remedial action, the marriage is doomed in mere years. She will crank out a few kids, but he will get star-fished while she play's hide the vagina because he never really lights her Alpha fire. His porn habit will expand to fill the vacancy of genuine intimacy in his life and she will use it as the rationalization for her infidelities once she gets her baby fat off. She will either stay with the marriage long enough to extract cash and prizes or just vaporize and move off with Chad. If the marriage persists for some bizzare reason without serious changes, he will live a live of turmoil, regret, self recrimination etc at being not second banana, but like tenth banana in her line up. He will never be able to look at her and entertain serious oneitis, because hey even oneitis is broadly speaking reserved for the Madona's or at least some reasonable facsimile of a Madona. If he stays with her, he is in her frame, forever, they both know it, and we all know how that turns out.
The only, ONLY remedial action that will save this is fiancé gets ripped and swallows a whole jar of RP extra strength. But even then, chances are 50% at best that it will work. He does not have the chops right now to legitimately bring her to heel, she is running the tables on him, or had been up until she got outted. It will take a year of Sundays to ever convince her that he is now the kind of animal that she played with in her "prior life" who is worthy of her primal level respect and sexual desire.
This is typical of people, who change lanes so abruptly in their lives. She promulgated a lie by omission by her own admission to us. Guess what, some things can not simply be made to go away with a "sorry". She made what probably amounts to a decade of wrong decisions and now is spinning in the wind trying to rationalize it away one way or another.
Does she OWE anything to her man? No she doesn't except for lets see, honesty? That would be a start, she could have been honest about what she had done in the past but she applied some liberal editorial to that didn't she? She could expand on that now with the really hard honesty, like "I love you (and what you represent to my future) but I am not in love with you (Never have been but I like your career prospects, oh and you don't actually turn me on, in fact I can only kind of tolerate you in bed). Can she be that honest? Could she actually say to her man, "I love you but you just don't turn me on like Mr x"? Could she muster the courage to say, "I know I lied, I am sorry, I am not proud of what I did, I know it doesn't seem fair that I did those things in the past but don't want to do them with you now. I really believe in us and so I am going to tell you something difficult, there is a way to make this work, but you, Fiance will have to do a bunch of hard work to make it happen, do you want to try to become the man that satisfies both sides of what I need?" Could she possibly have the courage to do that?
The whole OWE him anything really gets me going because I bet in five years when the marriage does implode, she will be the one yelling "you fucking owe me EVERYTHING". She will have plenty of ideas about what she is owed. She owes him commitment, e.g. total commitment of soul and body. If what she wants out of this is "exclusivity" in the form of the marital contract she has to go all in. Otherwise why should he be exclusive? If anybody actually bothers to read a marriage contract these days, they would note that these are the kinds of things referred to in said contract.
Stop beating around the bush people. She could give him super-whore sex right now and it won't fix the problem because it will only confirm his newfound knowledge, that she was ho-ing it up before and she can still do it now. Worse than that he is a chump for being made to wait so long to get half assed seconds. How can she ever wash away his deep misgivings that he will carry around simply because he got chumped? Because this was such a whopper of a lie how can he ever trust her 100% again? It would take regular acts of willfull self delusion on his part to believe much of what she says in the future. (I know this is the essence of BP)
I appreciate that OP came here hoping for a solution to HER problem, e.g. how do I smooth this over, but she has shown the classic signs of being unable to accept responsibility for her sexual decisions to date. I for one am extremely cynical as to the potential for success. I would love to be proven wrong.
Oh and why did I write such a scathing forumism? Because some of you people are dancing about trying to help this woman propagate a serious falsehood on this poor guy. There is no half measure that will save this in the long run, we all know this. There is only total change of the relationship dynamic that can lead to success for this program. If she really really really loves this guy, she will be able to read what I have written, she will be able to accept it, as hard as it is, and she will be able to do the hard work to go the distance for the 100% solution, e.g. fiancé goes full RP, gets ripped, becomes dominant etc. she goes submissive and as her attraction builds for her man she can unleash the full quiver of bedroom acrobatics she has available on her man motivated by genuine desire. But we all know that almost anything short of that is going to end in tears sooner or later. So I wrote this because I cannot stand around here and watch the aiding and abetting of a lie, a huge lie, on some unwitting victim of a man, to be clear the aiding and abetting is the pre-empitive forgiveness of her actions and the strategizing for how to "minimize" the damage.
You may now hurl pounds of monkey poo at me for being such a cynical bastard. God help that poor man, may he eject in safety soon.
I had my profile deleted not long ago, I have actually been here since early 2013, I'm not new
By the logic of that pile of vomit, no one, including the many guys here who (mis?) represented themselves as meek little Good Boys can change for the better.
We aren't assisting in a forgery. Anything but - the defensiveness and projecting of posters' own insecurities has been so judgey and shamey that it has driven off yet another person seeking help. We're trying to force some reality into the situation, but the fact is, doing so with a baseball bat when calm, kind, but blunt words would be far more effective.
Reality: Insecure, low value people will feel threatened by anything. My ex reacted much the same way as the more vitriolic in this thread, over my previous N of ... dun dun dunnn ... ONE. And that first guy got nothing more advanced than beginner's fumblings. I fully disclosed the sordid truth up front. All was fine, or so I was told, until later job problems caused it to crop up out of nowhere.
Reality: insecurity and jealousy is driving most of the ranty, ragey stuff in this thread, and there is no set, sane, reasonable standard to follow for a woman, because one man's pristine playground is another's "too prim, would not fuck".
The answer is not to beat yourself up or do some kind of parade of penance, because you will never be able to do enough acts of atonement to fill that pit of inadequacy. The way to fix it is to get away from such people and find a better fit.
"Speak your truth." - Scarlet Remember to play! Do the right thing, whether anyone is watching or not. Be married, until you are not.
Email address: angeline.greenwood@att.net
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Well you got one thing right, you are a cynical bastard @iam44.
When someone comes to the forum for help, we need to actually help the person rather than use the opportunity to rage at an imaginary foe. To the OP if you ever come back: this incident is going to cause major damage that cannot be undone in a conversation. Clearly the topic is too triggery to be discussed in a positive and productive manner on the forum. I suggest you set up a one hour call or coaching with Athol. Good luck to you and to your partner.
You may now hurl pounds of monkey poo at me for being such a cynical bastard. God help that poor man, may he eject in safety soon.
Except he's not here to be helped, so you have to make an appeal to her self-interest to try and fix the situation. Otherwise it's just you being ineffectively angry at some random woman on the internet.
The appeal to her self-interest is that she seems to have a lack of attraction to her fiancé, which means advancing into a marriage with him is wasting the pretty yada yada yada.
She's been a forum member since October 2015, so I'm sure she's been struggling with the relationship for a while.
"The turnaround is tremendous. And I'm lifting weights, eating better, and tackling projects. I have all this great energy without a vampire sucking my life force. He's a lot stronger standing on his own two feet, as well." - Scarlet
Athol_Kay said:She's been a forum member since October 2015, so I'm sure she's been struggling with the relationship for a while.
Of course, maybe she was prophetically insightful and had some inkling that her topic was likely to get carpet-bombed like some sort of forum-based D-day invasion.
I am late to the party as usual. Busy trying to improve myself Everyfucking day,sooo.. I Can Be The One She (my wife) Cannot Get Enough Of!
I move one step closer day by day...... I am going to get on a box here, hope no one needs the wood for a bit. If this has already been said ,,apologies.
1) I feel a MAJOR problem with our society is WE fucking shame women for being sexual..then we wonder why as Wives they don't want to be adventurous. ARGH. I understand the evo psych portion of this in the fact woman WANT the dominant male. Lets as men stop this shit..We all want an adventerous woman with us.
2) We men..wuss out. Rather than working our ass off when we Learn the truth about how It Really Works and becoming the Man our wives would do ANYTHING with... we complain and bitch about the system. Iam44 you fucking pansy..grow a set , lift some weights, Take Her Be a Leader and Educate young men in the truth...rather than Kevetching on the internet about THE FUCKING REALITY WE ALL LIVE IN. That's like bitching you gotta drink water to survive. Dumbass 3) I know it pisses us guys off, but we don't do our selves any favors by complaining. We need to work our butts off to improve our position..not complain. I mean this with the ultimate respect and love..but I want to sexually OWN my wife in every way possible, no stone unturned, she is to feel claimed. Not as some scorecard or checklist..but as a spiritual journey that we do together.. I lead and take her places of ecstasy she has never been. That's my goal. I don't come on here much anymore, I have to work on myself, I really don't have the Inclination to worry where others are and be jealous. I got many things to fix..BUT I have the fire back now. Forging my spirit. Since when did we start complaining so much. We used to be prodded to bust butt by the seniors on here. Here is your box back
Public service announcement: This is directed at troublemakers, not those who are helping. I am tasked with being Positive and Productive. I am an intense personality...No Shit right?
Really though, we men gotta stop complaining all the time and stop expecting others to fix our problems.
"The turnaround is tremendous. And I'm lifting weights, eating better, and tackling projects. I have all this great energy without a vampire sucking my life force. He's a lot stronger standing on his own two feet, as well." - Scarlet
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You didn't Rep your Fiancé or tell this clown to fuck off. So know he's having doubts and I would too. But being who I am I would have punched the drunk assholes lights out.
Into Phase 3..
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- I would wonder from that point on why she was in bed with me? Because she felt like she had to? I always wanted someone that actually desires me.
- Given the above, it would be apparent that she settled for me. I would always be wondering if I she would be always be looking for someone better since I wasn't exactly what she wanted.
- If she tried to make it up to me by suddenly promising to do all the things I had wanted sexually, I would lose all respect for her because it would feel like she was trying to manipulate me with sex.
- And yeah, I doubt there would be a wedding anytime soon.
A tough position to be in. I wonder if he will try to contact the same guy again or other people from your past to try and find out just how far this goes.
@WendyG - You have a situation that, frankly, has to be addressed. Many above mentioned the attraction to Douchey; its undeniable. I would spend some serious noodle-time with Athol's post - he's asked you some serious, pointed questions that you very seriously need to give very serious thought too.
You can't put the genie back in the bottle. And not addressing this one is just biding time until the pressure valve pops IMO.
How will you live well today?
Oh she got her long term man alright, but predictably he has no game and was happy to be a perfect gentlemen until he found out that it was only he who got this treatment. It's not even about the type of sex, but just the fact that he has been given a set of rules and has been sucking it up, probably getting less than half the sex life he really wants. If she said no to one type of sexual activity, he'd be fine with that probably if he felt real desire from her, but he doesn't. His gut has been telling him that she isn't really into him and now he has confirmation.
An inexperienced man like this has a huge bag of insecurity that he carries and this event has just reassured every single one of them. He's worthless, not attractive, not worthy of real desire, this is the best he ever gets, etc... He's thinking all of that.
He needs a MAP. He needs to become the best man he can be and not accept this type of dynamic if it makes him miserable. I'm not sure if he can salvage this because of the way it started and the dynamic created since then. Can you create attraction when none was really there to begin with? Don't we usually say no in those cases?
I'd be worried OP. You have your nice guy and I'm sure he'd be super committed to you and marry you and have kids with you and accept whatever sex life you could stomach with him, but are you really going to be happy with that in the end? Wouldn't you rather have all that AND a guy who you wanted to have enthusiastic sex with and often? Not one where you have to logic your way into whatever is needed to maintain the relationship? I think you feel this dynamic of you having the power and him going along and I don't think you find it attractive at all. You're trying to will yourself into the sensible choice. If you really want a long term thing with this guy, give him the books and tell him what you really need to be attracted to a guy. It could end the relationship as others have said, but it would end anyway in the long run. I think a part of you knows this. Better to risk it now, then risk a decade of turmoil.
When push comes to shove, you taste what you're made of. You might bend til you break, cause it's all you can take. On your knees you look up, decide you've had enough. You get mad, you get strong, wipe your hands, shake it off... And you stand!
"Stand" by Rascal Flatts
She rode the carousel and now she regrets it. (To be clear she doesn't regret the carousel she regrets what it is doing to sabotage her current life stage plans, she hasn;t indicated even a slice of remorse for her "previous life")
She hits the wall and changes lanes to BB mode, in a matter of months, classic.
She's probably an alpha widow.
Her man doesn't do it for her, period.
Starfish sex ensues, after a months long wait
It's never worth the wait.
If they move forward with this without any remedial action, the marriage is doomed in mere years. She will crank out a few kids, but he will get star-fished while she play's hide the vagina because he never really lights her Alpha fire. His porn habit will expand to fill the vacancy of genuine intimacy in his life and she will use it as the rationalization for her infidelities once she gets her baby fat off. She will either stay with the marriage long enough to extract cash and prizes or just vaporize and move off with Chad. If the marriage persists for some bizzare reason without serious changes, he will live a live of turmoil, regret, self recrimination etc at being not second banana, but like tenth banana in her line up. He will never be able to look at her and entertain serious oneitis, because hey even oneitis is broadly speaking reserved for the Madona's or at least some reasonable facsimile of a Madona. If he stays with her, he is in her frame, forever, they both know it, and we all know how that turns out.
The only, ONLY remedial action that will save this is fiancé gets ripped and swallows a whole jar of RP extra strength. But even then, chances are 50% at best that it will work. He does not have the chops right now to legitimately bring her to heel, she is running the tables on him, or had been up until she got outted. It will take a year of Sundays to ever convince her that he is now the kind of animal that she played with in her "prior life" who is worthy of her primal level respect and sexual desire.
This is typical of people, who change lanes so abruptly in their lives. She promulgated a lie by omission by her own admission to us. Guess what, some things can not simply be made to go away with a "sorry". She made what probably amounts to a decade of wrong decisions and now is spinning in the wind trying to rationalize it away one way or another.
Does she OWE anything to her man? No she doesn't except for lets see, honesty? That would be a start, she could have been honest about what she had done in the past but she applied some liberal editorial to that didn't she? She could expand on that now with the really hard honesty, like "I love you (and what you represent to my future) but I am not in love with you (Never have been but I like your career prospects, oh and you don't actually turn me on, in fact I can only kind of tolerate you in bed). Can she be that honest? Could she actually say to her man, "I love you but you just don't turn me on like Mr x"? Could she muster the courage to say, "I know I lied, I am sorry, I am not proud of what I did, I know it doesn't seem fair that I did those things in the past but don't want to do them with you now. I really believe in us and so I am going to tell you something difficult, there is a way to make this work, but you, Fiance will have to do a bunch of hard work to make it happen, do you want to try to become the man that satisfies both sides of what I need?" Could she possibly have the courage to do that?
The whole OWE him anything really gets me going because I bet in five years when the marriage does implode, she will be the one yelling "you fucking owe me EVERYTHING". She will have plenty of ideas about what she is owed. She owes him commitment, e.g. total commitment of soul and body. If what she wants out of this is "exclusivity" in the form of the marital contract she has to go all in. Otherwise why should he be exclusive? If anybody actually bothers to read a marriage contract these days, they would note that these are the kinds of things referred to in said contract.
Stop beating around the bush people. She could give him super-whore sex right now and it won't fix the problem because it will only confirm his newfound knowledge, that she was ho-ing it up before and she can still do it now. Worse than that he is a chump for being made to wait so long to get half assed seconds. How can she ever wash away his deep misgivings that he will carry around simply because he got chumped? Because this was such a whopper of a lie how can he ever trust her 100% again? It would take regular acts of willfull self delusion on his part to believe much of what she says in the future. (I know this is the essence of BP)
I appreciate that OP came here hoping for a solution to HER problem, e.g. how do I smooth this over, but she has shown the classic signs of being unable to accept responsibility for her sexual decisions to date. I for one am extremely cynical as to the potential for success. I would love to be proven wrong.
Oh and why did I write such a scathing forumism? Because some of you people are dancing about trying to help this woman propagate a serious falsehood on this poor guy. There is no half measure that will save this in the long run, we all know this. There is only total change of the relationship dynamic that can lead to success for this program. If she really really really loves this guy, she will be able to read what I have written, she will be able to accept it, as hard as it is, and she will be able to do the hard work to go the distance for the 100% solution, e.g. fiancé goes full RP, gets ripped, becomes dominant etc. she goes submissive and as her attraction builds for her man she can unleash the full quiver of bedroom acrobatics she has available on her man motivated by genuine desire. But we all know that almost anything short of that is going to end in tears sooner or later. So I wrote this because I cannot stand around here and watch the aiding and abetting of a lie, a huge lie, on some unwitting victim of a man, to be clear the aiding and abetting is the pre-empitive forgiveness of her actions and the strategizing for how to "minimize" the damage.
You may now hurl pounds of monkey poo at me for being such a cynical bastard. God help that poor man, may he eject in safety soon.
By the logic of that pile of vomit, no one, including the many guys here who (mis?) represented themselves as meek little Good Boys can change for the better.
We aren't assisting in a forgery. Anything but - the defensiveness and projecting of posters' own insecurities has been so judgey and shamey that it has driven off yet another person seeking help. We're trying to force some reality into the situation, but the fact is, doing so with a baseball bat when calm, kind, but blunt words would be far more effective.
Reality:
Insecure, low value people will feel threatened by anything. My ex reacted much the same way as the more vitriolic in this thread, over my previous N of ... dun dun dunnn ... ONE. And that first guy got nothing more advanced than beginner's fumblings. I fully disclosed the sordid truth up front. All was fine, or so I was told, until later job problems caused it to crop up out of nowhere.
Reality: insecurity and jealousy is driving most of the ranty, ragey stuff in this thread, and there is no set, sane, reasonable standard to follow for a woman, because one man's pristine playground is another's "too prim, would not fuck".
The answer is not to beat yourself up or do some kind of parade of penance, because you will never be able to do enough acts of atonement to fill that pit of inadequacy. The way to fix it is to get away from such people and find a better fit.
Remember to play!
Do the right thing, whether anyone is watching or not.
Be married, until you are not.
Email address: angeline.greenwood@att.net
Perhaps a tongue-in-cheek recitation of all the reddit cliches?
Except he's not here to be helped, so you have to make an appeal to her self-interest to try and fix the situation. Otherwise it's just you being ineffectively angry at some random woman on the internet.
The appeal to her self-interest is that she seems to have a lack of attraction to her fiancé, which means advancing into a marriage with him is wasting the pretty yada yada yada.
She's been a forum member since October 2015, so I'm sure she's been struggling with the relationship for a while.
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"The turnaround is tremendous. And I'm lifting weights, eating better, and tackling projects. I have all this great energy without a vampire sucking my life force. He's a lot stronger standing on his own two feet, as well." - Scarlet
I just hope she comes back at this point...
Busy trying to improve myself Everyfucking day,sooo..
I Can Be The One She (my wife) Cannot Get Enough Of!
I move one step closer day by day...... I am going to get on a box here, hope no one needs the wood for a bit. If this has already been said ,,apologies.
1) I feel a MAJOR problem with our society is WE fucking shame women for being sexual..then we wonder why as Wives they don't want to be adventurous. ARGH. I understand the evo psych portion of this in the fact woman WANT the dominant male. Lets as men stop this shit..We all want an adventerous woman with us.
2) We men..wuss out. Rather than working our ass off when we Learn the truth about how It Really Works and becoming the Man our wives would do ANYTHING with... we complain and bitch about the system. Iam44 you fucking pansy..grow a set , lift some weights, Take Her Be a Leader and Educate young men in the truth...rather than Kevetching on the internet about THE FUCKING REALITY WE ALL LIVE IN. That's like bitching you gotta drink water to survive. Dumbass
3) I know it pisses us guys off, but we don't do our selves any favors by complaining. We need to work our butts off to improve our position..not complain.
I mean this with the ultimate respect and love..but I want to sexually OWN my wife in every way possible, no stone unturned, she is to feel claimed. Not as some scorecard or checklist..but as a spiritual journey that we do together.. I lead and take her places of ecstasy she has never been.
That's my goal.
I don't come on here much anymore, I have to work on myself, I really don't have the Inclination to worry where others are and be jealous.
I got many things to fix..BUT I have the fire back now. Forging my spirit.
Since when did we start complaining so much. We used to be prodded to bust butt by the seniors on here.
Here is your box back
Public service announcement: This is directed at troublemakers, not those who are helping. I am tasked with being Positive and Productive. I am an intense personality...No Shit right?
Really though, we men gotta stop complaining all the time and stop expecting others to fix our problems.
Fate favors the prepared.
Unacceptable. Knock it off.
I've tried to keep this thread on track several times now, the OP appears to be gone.
Thread closed.
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