Do you communicate at all during sex? Like in the moment? When I am going for mine H is very aware (I am vocally and physically showing him) and would not finish without knowing for sure that I'm 'done'.
I sound so selfish.
The most she usually says is 'keep going' if I happen to slow down or change something.
If I can, next time, I might hold off until she seems done and ask her if she's done, or if she wants more, before I finish.
As an aside, this would be quite a victory for me as I had a history with PE. (See PE thread)
Have you asked her how upsetting or disappointing it is?
I'm in the camp where it's not a super big deal to me. Slightly disappointing, but usually the sex prior to that and the build-up right before orgasm are no different than if the O itself is excellent. So the only thing I'm missing is maybe a few seconds. I have orgasms pretty frequently, but if I only had them rarely, I might be more disappointed when I skipped my peak. My point is, it's not a big deal to me. And you should find out from your wife whether she's really upset by it or not.
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WinterThe Island of MisFit ToysGold WomenPosts: 955
I think this thread is a prime example of how women are all different when it comes to sex and orgasms. I can feel very frustrated if I am climbing to a peak and it falls away, but I can be totally fulfilled by having sex with no orgasms at all. For me the frustration is when I feel the climb and can't get over the edge. I can enjoy sex with no climb and no climax - that's better than thinking it's going to happen and then being left hanging.
The climb for me is exhilarating but also somewhat frantic so without the peak I am left in that frantic feeling state. And again, not every O is/requires a 'climb'. Some are more like waves rushing over (and over and over). So, yeah, not all O's are the same.
I find that sometimes I am getting very close to O and it kind of starts but I don't get there so maybe that's what she is describing to you. Does it bother me, well no it is better when I reach it but what does bug me is when that happens 3 or 4 times in a row. You men have it good be thankful. My H is perplexed about how what works today fails tomorrow. If we have a few sessions with no O when I finally do it is usually a really good one. It does not make me frustrated at him though as quite frankly sounds like most men get to work way longer getting the women to O ,but you are all horn dogs and that's your job
Or, in some cases, we time it wrong, she never reaches a peak, refraction takes more than 15 minutes, she gets frustrated, and the negative feed back loop starts...Positive outcomes lead to more positive outcomes, while negative ones can lead to lots of anxiety...
For guys its equivalent to a sneeze. Some are short and minor, while others feel like you're going to blow out your back. Either way, you're just exstatic it leaves your body.
"How vain it is to sit down and write when you have not stood up to live."
Hmm, I wonder if we're talking about different things. For me, "missing my peak" is when I'm sure I had an orgasm, but the actual peak felt like not much of anything. However, what @Winter mentioned about "feeling the climb" and "not being able to get over the edge" to me means cannot reach orgasm despite strong effort, and yes that really leaves me very disappointed and frustrated. Sometimes I worry that's happening more often. Usually my H buys another toy and the orgasms come back stronger and better. I think the newness of something (whether that's a new toy, new position, watching porn) gets me going and makes orgasm more likely. I haven't read through your Boundary Pushing thread in a while, @UnBetaMe, but where are you and your W in terms of the AS department? I ask because new activities in that area make "missing my peak" pretty much obsolete, at least in my recent experience.
@forestleaf I hear what you are saying. I haven't been pushing the AS at all. We have been making great strides in her frequency of orgasms, so I put that on the back burner.
She was having very strong orgasms sevetal months ago when I was using my thumb in the back door after she got warmed up in doggy. I might get back to that sooner than later now that youentire your experience.
She also has a birthday coming up, so a new toy would likely be a great idea as well.
I'll sometimes plateau ... not exactly a missed peak, but I'll reach a level just short of orgasm and get stuck there. Eventually I just give up on an O that time.
So if youre riding a wave ( let's just say a 7 on a 1-10) and don't reach the O, in your head the experience is as a "missed opportunity" or pleasurable?
When it happens, I feel frustrated.
First, this hasn't happened in a long time — but I've been single for a long time too. I occasionally plateau when I'm taking care of myself, somewhat more often with a partner. I normally O easily.
My previous partners were not wise lovers, and I didn't talk about sex. I'm not sure they knew I plateaued, or cared, They never offered to do anything special for me.
When I'm in control, I'll wait for at least a few hours, and take myself to success. I can't wait less time, the plateau sticks around a while and I'll get nowhere. I have to get up and think about/do other things for a while to re-set.
I don't like the plateau, but I don't obsess about it. I know I'll have an O the next time I try. No scarcity mentality here!
If you're with a woman like me, and she complains about a "partial orgasm", my suggestion would be to get out of bed, give her some extra relationship comfort, and be about your day. Stoke her responsive desire, building to another session several hours/that evening/the next day later. Then, do everything you can to make her O.
Enneagram 5w4. I'm researching what that means, before designing t-shirt art about it.
"I feel no shame in making lavish use of the strongest muscles, namely male ones (but my own strongest muscle is dedicated to the service of men - noblesse oblige). I don't begrudge men one whit of their natural advantages as long as they respect mine. I am not an unhappy pseudomale; I am female and like it that way." RAH
W had an orgasm last night that was not partial. A little bit better communication on her part and I provided more stimulation of her nipples throught and then thumb pressure on the back door (no insertion) as she climbed toward orgasm. Thanks for the reminder @forestleaf.
I'll let her bring up the partial orgasm, if it happens again, and ask her more about it in the moment.
I'll add more detail in my Baby Steps thread later. However, on this topic, W had an orgasm last night as per usual with her vibe while I take her from behind.
When her initial glory had subsided, I asked her if she wanted more. She said 'No' and I proceeded to take her to pound town for another minute or so to finish myself.
Afterward she asked what that was all about. I told her I didn't want to leave her with a partial orgasm. She said that she always likes it best when we O at the same time.
So, there you have it....
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RedfordThe Great White NorthSilver MemberPosts: 679
edited September 20
Over. Analyzing. It. Again.
So, tell me. Are you an engineer or a financial analyst?
Further to this thread. We had friends over last night until close to midnight. We had some wine (W more than me). It had been a few days since we had sex and she initiated even though we were both tired. She said 'are we gonna do this?'. Anyway she tries for orgasm but gives up about 5 minutes in and just tells me to finish. Both fatigue and wine I'm assuming are the culprits here.
The thing that has become evident to me recently is that women aren't like men when it comes to sex. Yes, I know, TOTALLY new thought!
So I'm spooning with the GF and slip my thumb in. She can orgasm easily with my thumb pressing on her g-spot and it's the right angle. but she wants PIV. With that, sometimes she Os and sometimes she doesn't but she's always insistent about replacing the guaranteed O of the thumb with the uncertain O of PIV.
So the real key is not to get too wrapped up in what the other person wants. Let them want what they want.
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If I can, next time, I might hold off until she seems done and ask her if she's done, or if she wants more, before I finish.
As an aside, this would be quite a victory for me as I had a history with PE. (See PE thread)
I'm in the camp where it's not a super big deal to me. Slightly disappointing, but usually the sex prior to that and the build-up right before orgasm are no different than if the O itself is excellent. So the only thing I'm missing is maybe a few seconds. I have orgasms pretty frequently, but if I only had them rarely, I might be more disappointed when I skipped my peak. My point is, it's not a big deal to me. And you should find out from your wife whether she's really upset by it or not.
The climb for me is exhilarating but also somewhat frantic so without the peak I am left in that frantic feeling state. And again, not every O is/requires a 'climb'. Some are more like waves rushing over (and over and over). So, yeah, not all O's are the same.
She was having very strong orgasms sevetal months ago when I was using my thumb in the back door after she got warmed up in doggy. I might get back to that sooner than later now that youentire your experience.
She also has a birthday coming up, so a new toy would likely be a great idea as well.
Fate favors the prepared.
First, this hasn't happened in a long time — but I've been single for a long time too. I occasionally plateau when I'm taking care of myself, somewhat more often with a partner. I normally O easily.
My previous partners were not wise lovers, and I didn't talk about sex. I'm not sure they knew I plateaued, or cared, They never offered to do anything special for me.
When I'm in control, I'll wait for at least a few hours, and take myself to success. I can't wait less time, the plateau sticks around a while and I'll get nowhere. I have to get up and think about/do other things for a while to re-set.
I don't like the plateau, but I don't obsess about it. I know I'll have an O the next time I try. No scarcity mentality here!
If you're with a woman like me, and she complains about a "partial orgasm", my suggestion would be to get out of bed, give her some extra relationship comfort, and be about your day. Stoke her responsive desire, building to another session several hours/that evening/the next day later. Then, do everything you can to make her O.
Enneagram 5w4. I'm researching what that means, before designing t-shirt art about it.
"I feel no shame in making lavish use of the strongest muscles, namely male ones (but my own strongest muscle is dedicated to the service of men - noblesse oblige). I don't begrudge men one whit of their natural advantages as long as they respect mine. I am not an unhappy pseudomale; I am female and like it that way." RAH
A little bit better communication on her part and I provided more stimulation of her nipples throught and then thumb pressure on the back door (no insertion) as she climbed toward orgasm. Thanks for the reminder @forestleaf.
I'll let her bring up the partial orgasm, if it happens again, and ask her more about it in the moment.
However, on this topic, W had an orgasm last night as per usual with her vibe while I take her from behind.
When her initial glory had subsided, I asked her if she wanted more. She said 'No' and I proceeded to take her to pound town for another minute or so to finish myself.
Afterward she asked what that was all about. I told her I didn't want to leave her with a partial orgasm. She said that she always likes it best when we O at the same time.
So, there you have it....
So, tell me. Are you an engineer or a financial analyst?
It had been a few days since we had sex and she initiated even though we were both tired.
She said 'are we gonna do this?'.
Anyway she tries for orgasm but gives up about 5 minutes in and just tells me to finish.
Both fatigue and wine I'm assuming are the culprits here.
So I'm spooning with the GF and slip my thumb in. She can orgasm easily with my thumb pressing on her g-spot and it's the right angle. but she wants PIV. With that, sometimes she Os and sometimes she doesn't but she's always insistent about replacing the guaranteed O of the thumb with the uncertain O of PIV.
So the real key is not to get too wrapped up in what the other person wants. Let them want what they want.
How do you wear your algos?
FTR: I dont wear glasses or pocket protectors either.