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False dichotomy.TPoke said:@Katt so looking over the thread and summing it all up... A) laid-maid-treyed - sandwich making, cum enthusiast, un-assertive, sweet, loyal, nice girl Vs assertive - demanding, super confident, stands up for herself, uses the word "no" often, independent girl More attractive A or B, holding all other things equal. Understanding that they are both extreme caricatures, I think the captains would decide this in a landslide.